Giants Mock Draft. Deal for Edwards?

The New York Giants are in an enviable position this draft season.
They Giants have 10 draft picks with only one glaring Hole on the Roster, the position of Wide Receiver. The Giants do have other minor holes on the team, but most of them are depth issues (Offensive line, running back positions), or just upgrades in serviceable talent (like for the linebacker position, safety position, or tight end position)

Like I said, the Giants have 10 draft picks in this draft, but not enough roster spots for the draft picks, so I don’t see a scenario where the Giants don’t make a trade at some point.  The question is do the Giants trade up in the first round or do they trade picks to other teams in exchange for a player, or perhaps even trade picks this year in exchange for picks next year.
My Mock Draft

Before the draft the Giants trade picks number 45 (1st 2nd round pick), 91 (third round pick), And 151 (first fifth round pick) in exchange to the Browns for Braylon Edwards. The Giants, if need be also offer a conditional 2010 fourth round pick to the Browns that can become a second rounder next year depending on how Edwards does this season, or if the Giants make it to the Superbowl this season.
 
 
Now I think this deal is realistic and perhaps even probable. First off the Browns Need more draft picks. They don’t have many so it’s fits that criteria they get three draft picks this year a middle second rounder, a third rounder, and a middle fifth rounder. And the conditional  fourth rounder next year (that becomes a 2 or three if Braylon Edwards receives like 1200 yards or something or if the Giants make the N.F.C championship game or something) That’s a pretty good haul.

Secondly, Bryalon Edwards doesn’t want to be a Brown.  (He thinks he gets disrespected)
Thirdly Browns fans are getting sick of Braylon Edwards (from what I gather and hear/see). Because he complains about not liking the Browns AND has “stone hands”-I’ve seen that one around a lot.

Possible Hang ups:
 
 
Well one possible hang up is clearly that after trading Kellen Winslow and hearing that Donte Stallworth drove drunk and Killed someone-the Browns are short on receivers.
However, they have young quarterbacks and the Browns Will NOT compete this year in that tough division if Brady Quinn starts the season at Quarterback (barring some drastic changes this season). I mean it’s possible, but they have a lot of holes and young QB generally don’t do well til the third or fourth seasons, which is fine, but the Browns have a ways to go to catch the Steelers and probably Ravens as well. The Browns can afford to develop a talented young wide receiver that they draft, but the Giants have a very good chance of Winning the Superbowl with a number 1 WR, Especially if they get a #1 WR And Plaxico comes back they’ll be dangerous.
 
 
The Browns also have the luxury of sitting at five where they can more likely than not get Crabtree if they wish.  Then they will have 2 early second round draft picks this year to target defensive help. Which they can use on players like DT Ron Brace, athletic pass rushing specialist Larry English, or Connor Barwin and or a player like Alphonso Smith.
All would fill huge Browns needs and all could or will be available in the 2nd round.

This works out well for the Giants too because they still have, after this hypothetical trade, a Pick in each round-with the third round comp pick they were awarded. 
That’s still a regular size draft (one pick each round), plus you get Braylon Edwards.   However, Edwards, is a free agent after this season, and I don’t want to mortgage an entire future for a guy (don’t get me wrong, love him) that does drop a lot of balls, and apparently has some sort of attitude problems. So if four draft picks (that could be two second rounders isn’t enough) so be it.  Sign Torry Holt and figure out the WR position in the draft.
Now onto the draft: I’m still entirely in favor of Kenny Britt if we don’t get Edwards though. Just to make it clear. I LOVE Kenny Britt.  But for this mock I’ll proceed as if the Giants make my hypothetical trade for Edwards.
 
 
 
1st rounder (#29).

 

 This is where the Giants take Best player available among a few different positions. With the WR position already settled the Giants, in my opinion look at four different positions here. I think they look at Running back, Tight End, Linebacker, and Offensive line.
 
Clay Matthews as looked explosive and like he could be a devastating pass rushing specialist in a 4-3, if he’s here I think he’s the pick (I don’t think he will be)
Knowshown Moreno is the perfect complement to Brandon Jacobs and he’s choice 1 or 1a.  (I don’t think he will be here)
 
Brandon Pettigrew is a great option if he remains here (I don’t think he will be here). 

But for my mock  with WR position already addressed William Beatty is the pick. Beatty’s Only knock is that he has seen has having only one really good season (this past season) but Beatty is a good athlete.
 
 “His injury in 2006 underlined his importance to the offense. The Huskies averaged 205.8 yards rushing and 355.8 yards in total offense per game with the sophomore manning the left tackle position that year. With Beatty out of action, the team managed to average only 166.57 yards rushing and 301.14 yards in total offense.

He has perhaps the most upside potential after Jason Smith in this draft and is a steal at the end of round one.
 
I’m willing to bet that the Giants are the only team in the league that has started the same OL two years in a row.
 
I’m scared out of my pants to what might happen if an injury is suffered by one of our T. I’d like to see an OT in the first three picks that are in the first two rounds (if we don’t’ make a trade)
 
 
Pick # 60 (End of round two)

James Casey Tight End, Rice
 
James Casey has two Negatives at the tight end position.
 
Negative Number 1, he’s not an exceptional blocker. 
 
Negative Number two-he’ll be twenty five when the season starts. 
 
The age though is okay though because it means he should be more mature and well grounded. (he played baseball which is why he’s older)
 
Casey though is an intriguing athlete who I would compare to Chris Cooley on the Redskins because he can play split tight end or an H-back kind of role out of the backfield as a blocker or pass catcher.
 
I think he’d add a nice dimension to the team and give the team some more flexibility. Kevin Boss is a fine player, but he’s not James Casey.
 
Casey Scouting Report:
 
“Compares To: WES WELKER, New England meets DALLAS CLARK, Indianapolis — It is very hard to find a comparison for Casey. His ability to play in a variety of blue collar roles brings back memories of what Welker did at Texas Tech and does for the Pats. Casey’s pass catching ability is on par with Clark’s, but he does not have the size and blocking skills to be considered a traditional tight end. Using him as an H-Back or slot receiver is his best option, as he needs to be in motion to be productive, evident by his breakout performance in 2008. Still, he is a neophyte to football, with just two years of college experience and was away from the game for three years. His birth certificate has a lower date (8/22/84) on it than most prospects in this draft”

James Casey would give the Giants a legitimate receiving threat for teams to worry about. If he’s 2/3 the player Dallas Clark is he’s a steal in round two. 
 
  
Pick #100 (Compensatory Pick)
 
Here’s where the Giants get the most underrated Linebacker in the draft, in my opinion, when they select Marcus Freeman out of Ohio State.  He was overshadowed by Lauranitis bit would fit the Giants style well as a good athlete who is small and fast.
 
Scouting Report:

 
“Positives: A bit shorter than scouts would like, but a well-built athlete with room for additional mass. … Instinctive defender who flows to the ball quickly. … Athletic enough to elude blockers and make plays at or near the line of scrimmage. … Reliable open-field tackler. … Breaks down well and can drive the ball carrier into the ground. … Good awareness and speed in coverage. … Gets good depth on his drops. … Reads the quarterback’s eyes and closes quickly. … Excellent special teams player. … Tough and plays through pain. … Solid week of practice at the Senior Bowl.
 
Negatives: A bit smaller than scouts would like. … Likes to avoid blockers rather than facing them up and struggles in disengaging. … Lacks the bulk to hold up when targeted in the running game. … Athletic in coverage, but seems content to allow the reception to be made and make a secure tackle, rather than breaking on the ball. … Has struggled with durability: torn knee ligaments and a subsequent staph infection forced him to redshirt the 2005 season. Had his knee scoped following the 2007 season for a possible torn meniscus. Struggled through the 2008 season with a recurring ankle sprain.”
 

 
Hopefully Freemans’ stock is still a third rounder. I could see him going in the second though. I’m not sure I want him in the second round (especially if we make any trades) but I would love to see him in the third round.
Pick # 129. (end of round 4)

For this pick I would love to see Jason Phillips ILB out of TCU; Phillips had 13 tackles for a loss, 84 tackles, and 3.5 sacks last season. He’s 6-1 239 and ran a 4.69 Forty. I’m hoping the lack of size and the not overly impressive 40, gets Phillips to the Giants in the fourth round.
So that’s my pick, but I think his stock is up and I don’t think he’ll make it past the third round. So I’ll say that he’s gone and we take Chris Clemons, Safety out of Clemson

“Overshadowed throughout his career by teammate Michael Hamlin, Clemons’ consistency in coverage might actually make him the safer NFL prospect. A three-year starter for the Tigers who leaves with 323 career tackles, 20 passes broken up and five interceptions, Clemons’ production warrants a closer look. If he can prove his speed in workouts, Clemons’ could surprise as a second-day defender capable of contributing immediately”.
 
Positives: Lanky build with room for additional growth. … Has at least adequate pure game speed to be the last line of defense. … Takes good angles in pursuit. … Reads the quarterback and gets a jump on the ball. … Flashes a late burst to close. … Good open-field tackler. … Has the lateral quickness and balance to break down in space and wraps up. … Agile enough to slip blocks and make tackles near the line of scrimmage. … Durable. … Has never missed a game due to injury at Clemson.
 
 
Negatives: Lacks the bulk many teams prefer at safety. … A reliable open-field tackler, but lacks the explosiveness to be an enforcer in the middle. … Isn’t a natural playmaker. … Loses sight of the ball and doesn’t have natural hands for the interception. … Surrounded by legitimate NFL talent and has been allowed to freelance as a centerfielder”
 
 

Good value in the fourth round I think.

 Pick #164 (End of round 5)

Another, in my mind, completely underrated player the Giants get at the end of round five that player is:
 
Ian Johnson, RB, Boise State
 
 
People want to keep knocking this guy for whatever reasons, but he was productive in college. He catches the ball well out of the backfield. He has some decent size standing at 5’11 and weighing a little over 210 pounds. He ran a 4.46 40 in the 40 (his biggest knock was his lack of “Speed”. He has an injury history so he could be had cheap.
 
 
Ian Johnson is what you want for a running back that might not see a ton of playing time if Ahmahd Bradshaw and Ware are as good as we all hope.
 
Ian Johnson is just a football player. He just wants to win. He’ll block, carry the rock, he’ll catch passes out of the backfield.
 
A gamer.
 

 
“Positives: Very good vision. Anticipates the hole and attacks it. Runs a bit high, but lowers his shoulders around defenders and isn’t afraid of contact. Keeps his legs driving to fight for the tough yards, but is more of a finesse runner whose lateral quickness and quick acceleration generates the bulk of his production. Slippery runner who breaks a lot of tackles. Deceptive speed for his upright running style and has quick acceleration. May lack elite breakaway speed, but gets to top speed quickly and can separate from the initial wave of defenders to gain yardage in chunks. Developing receiver who catches the ball cleanly and quickly turns upfield.
 
 
Negatives: Staggering sophomore production influenced by Boise State’s offense. Unusual build for a running back, as Johnson has narrow shoulders and hips. Lacks elite timed speed. Runs a bit upright, leading to unnecessary punishment. Struggled with injuries as a sophomore and junior, leading to a decrease in playing time and raising questions about his durability. Has missed all or significant portions of games throughout his career due to a variety of injuries, including a punctured lung, bruised kidneys and torn knee ligaments. Will need an extensive medical check.”
 

Round #6 pick #200.
 
Louie Sakoda, Kicker/Punter Utah. 
 
Sakoda is an excellent specialists and would be able to replace Feagles when he retired and Lawrency Tynes. Who I don’ t trust that much.
 
 
“Positives: Good definition in calves, along with a strong torso and lower body. … Clutch kicker with no fear, confident at the end of the game and from either hashmark. … Strong hip snap, goes violently through the ball, but is consistent in his approach and movement. … Two-step punter with 1.1-1.2 get-off time when at his best. … Can hang up 40-yard punts 4.6-4.8 seconds with time, especially if trying to pin opponent inside the 10. … Benefits from altitude, but made a 53-yard field goal and averaged 47 yards a punt against Michigan in Ann Arbor in 2008.
 
Negatives: Inconsistent getting quick elevation on field goals, an area in which he must improve in the NFL. … Does not have the booming leg to make 55- to 60-yard kicks or send kickoffs into the end zone with regularity. … Has not been the regular kickoff specialist since his freshman year (only 13 touchbacks from 35-yard line). … Rarely are NFL punters as small as Sakoda. … Inconsistent hang-time and punt depth. … Will back-step with his right foot or add a full step after receiving the snap, leading to longer (1.25-1.35 seccond) touch-to-toe time. … Does not punt directionally, and is better pinning opponents when kicking from his 40 than the other side of midfield. … Can get a hand on a returner if needed, but lacks the size to bring him down.
 
 
“A former walk-on, Sakoda earned All-American honors for the second straight year in 2008. Sakoda is only the second player to be named as a Ray Guy and Lou Groza Award finalist (Purdue’s Travis Dorsch, 2001), although he won neither. Among the nation’s leaders in scoring with 115 points, the diminutive Sakoda is a major reason for Utah’s undefeated regular season. His field goal accuracy is outstanding (8-10, 80% from 40-plus, 22-24, 92% total in ’08; 57-66, 86% career) and he has a 50-yard-plus range. He also has a 42.1-yard average as a punter, but an astounding 74 fair catches forced and 104 kicks downed inside the 20-yard line. Had an arm span of 29 inches and a hand span of 8 1/4 inches at the combine.”
 

 
 That’s like Jeff Feagles. Not a Huge leg, but a coffin corner machine.
 
The Giants realize how valuable that has been for them with Feagles and should plan for his replacement as well as a player who can just move Tynes to off the team.

Pick #238 (end of round 7)

I think you just take best player available here. I have an intriguine one out of Oregon.
That player is Defensive End Nick Reed out of Oregon

Nick Reed is an intriguing player becuase no one will be quite sure of whether or not he can play. He doesn’t have great wing span, or great speed or burst off the line.

 
He’s just a football player, people will worry about whether or not he has the elite athleticsm needed to excel in the N.F.L.
 
I don’t know, but it’s worth a risk in round seven.
 
 
Last year Nick Reed had 13 sacks, 20 Tackles for loss and 20 QB hurries. Like I said, not elite athleticism, just a football player. It’ snot like he’s playing in a Divison II school either. That’s elite production in a good conference.
But if he falls to the 7th round he’s worth the risk.

 

“Positives: Strong up top with adequate lower-body strength. … Draws chips and double teams regularly due to his high motor. … Uses his stout build to play with leverage at the point, although he does not hold his ground against helping guards. … Effective spin move inside or outside when man-up. … Uses his hands well at the point, able to punch or rip off his man or avoid running back blocks when he has the space to do it. … Varies his attack inside and outside so blockers don’t zero in on one move. … Hustles toward the quarterback, downfield and chases down the line. … Lines up on both sides of the line. … Plays on coverage units.
 
Negatives: Short for an edge rusher, and has little muscle definition. … Lacks the explosiveness off the snap of other undersized NFL ends. … Gets engulfed by larger offensive tackles. … Can not recover from a wide rush, allowing the quarterback to step up in the pocket. … Sacks often come against lesser tackles and when quarterback holds the ball too long. … Wears down in the fourth quarter against stronger linemen. … May be moved to linebacker, but does not have to the flexibility and change-of-direction agility to handle coverage responsibilities. … Gets in position to make plays in space, but lacks the quickness to finish against NFL-type backs and receivers.”
 

 
All Scouting reports complied by one of my favorite draft information sites.
And that’s just the official nfl draft site.

 
nfl.com/draft . Some of the combine numbers I got from another one of my favorites walterfootball.com
 
 
 
 So to recap the draft here:   the Giants trade a 2nd, a third, a fifth, and an conditional fourth next year that can become a second in exchange for Braylon Edwards.
 
 
Then they draft 1st round William Beatty.  2nd Round is James Casey TE Rice. Third Round Marcus Freeman OLB, Ohio State. Fourth Round is Chris Clemons FS, Clemson. Fifth round is Ian Johnson RB, Boise State. Sixth round is Louie Sakoda Kicker/Punter Utah. And the 7th round pick is Nick Reed. DE out of Oregon.
 
 
As always if you take time out of your schedule to reply. I can find time to take out of my scheudle to respond to you.
 
 
Have a nice day, everyone.


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4 Responses to “Giants Mock Draft. Deal for Edwards?”

  1. this makes little sense

  2. And why do you say that? explain.

    • because there is no way they will be able to get edwards without giving up a first, especially with stallworth in legal trouble, a new coach, an “open QB competition” going into camp (which is just a ruse to jack up derek anderson’s trade value while they give brady quinn the reigns). furthermore, the browns were looking for a pick and maybe even kiwi, and the giants offered manningham or hixon, reportedly. so, even the giants are to go after edwards they most likely won’t be able to get him without giving up their 1, which is a lot for a guy who does tend to drop the ball a lot.

      then if they are gonna go after an Tackle, it won’t be beatty, not with all those picks and other tackles available. i understand that mckenzie is getting older, but i don’t see why everyone wants to tamper with this unit.

      i think they will deal some picks b/c they have no room to sign 10 picks, but i wouldn’t rule out them trading up to get a matthews or cushing type, ( i do agree with you on that, i don’t think anybody on the roster now is gonna be an every down starter at SLB).

      Bottom line is now that plax is gone they will address receiver at some point with one of those 4 (or 5?) picks in the first 100.

      thoughts?

  3. All right I see where you’re coming from now.

    I think The Best OT go in descending order: Monroe, Smith, Smith (Andre b/c of concerns), Oher, Beatty, Britton.

    I think Smith, Monroe, Smith, and Oher are gone before the first twenty picks, I’d be willing to be serious coin on it.

    I’m not sure what other tackles you think will be left late in the 1st round. Beatty is very underrated, i think, he’s very good. If they don’t draft Beatty it’s all downhill from the OT position after that-and I think the Giants should just skip it then.

    It’s not that I want to tinker with the OL. It’s great.

    It’s that they are getting old along some positions, and the Giants have been so lucky not to have an injury along their OL for like 3 years now. I just don’t think this season they stay healthy, and I’m afraid to have Boothe replace Diehl or Mckenzie if he gets hurt.

    It would be fantastic if we could draft Beatty, not even play him this year and groom him to be an excellent OT in two or three years.

    I think if the Browns wont’ take a 2nd, third, a fifth (before the Giants offered a 2nd and a fifth) and a conditional second, than screw them.

    Just Draft Britt or Nicks in the first round or Brian Robiskie who’s also underrated and might be available with the early second round pick that we don’t give up (assuming we don’t make a trade for Edwards).

    If Britt or nicks isn’t available-I’d target a player like Knoswhon Moreno, or BPA.

    Perhaps Brandon Pettigrew falls? Or a Safety like Sean Smith

    The ONLY LB I want to move up for is Ray Maluaga even though he doesn’t play OLB, I have too many questions about both Matthews and Cushin don’t give up a lot to get them, but I would draft them in a heartbeat if they fell.

    The Only WR I want to move up to get is Maclin if he falls to like 14-16 range, b/c if we move up to get Maclin (and give up a lot to get there).

    We know at the very least he’ll be Awesome on special teams.

    OR If Crabtree makes it to the Bills at 11, jump on it.

    Of course this all speculation and I trust Jerry Reese’s judgement so I’m just excited to see what will happen.

    Thanks for the response

    What do you think?

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