Comments on: Talking Points: Giants-Chargers http://www.giantsgab.com/2009/11/09/talking-points-giants-chargers/ The Definitive New York Giants Blog! Sat, 11 Feb 2012 05:57:27 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Jesse Bartolis http://www.giantsgab.com/2009/11/09/talking-points-giants-chargers/comment-page-1/#comment-10437 Jesse Bartolis Mon, 09 Nov 2009 23:11:47 +0000 http://www.giantsgab.com/?p=3068#comment-10437 They are all winnable/loseable games. I should clarify that I think there are two HUGE games. Vs Atlanta and Vs Philly. Both are at home. They win those two they are in, if not chance. They are all winnable/loseable games.

I should clarify that I think there are two HUGE games.

Vs Atlanta and Vs Philly. Both are at home.

They win those two they are in, if not chance.

]]> By: bigblueindc http://www.giantsgab.com/2009/11/09/talking-points-giants-chargers/comment-page-1/#comment-10435 bigblueindc Mon, 09 Nov 2009 18:11:35 +0000 http://www.giantsgab.com/?p=3068#comment-10435 It shoudl really also be noted in the playoff discussion that the Giants are still only 1.5 games behind the Cowboys and the Cowboys still have to come to East Rutherford. So i'm not sure if I'm quite ready to throw in the towel on the division and start rooting for the Cowboys. Particuarly with the bye week coming up, I think the first two games back after that will be very telling as to whether we should get ready for the move across the parking lot, or whether there will still be good/meaningful football in 2009. It shoudl really also be noted in the playoff discussion that the Giants are still only 1.5 games behind the Cowboys and the Cowboys still have to come to East Rutherford. So i’m not sure if I’m quite ready to throw in the towel on the division and start rooting for the Cowboys. Particuarly with the bye week coming up, I think the first two games back after that will be very telling as to whether we should get ready for the move across the parking lot, or whether there will still be good/meaningful football in 2009.

]]> By: BlueManFla http://www.giantsgab.com/2009/11/09/talking-points-giants-chargers/comment-page-1/#comment-10434 BlueManFla Mon, 09 Nov 2009 15:58:23 +0000 http://www.giantsgab.com/?p=3068#comment-10434 Jesse......Although I have been an ardent Giants fan since 1952, and with the way the GMen have lost the last 4 games, I am a realist and must state that your article neglected to mention that there are 6 games which are very loseable for the Giants. I shutter at the though but the performance of the team these past weeks gives me pause to think that possibly the only geame we win down the stretch is Washington. I hope I am wrong, but I have been around for many moons and remember the horrible stretches of bad football through the years. Jesse……Although I have been an ardent Giants fan since 1952, and with the way the GMen have lost the last 4 games, I am a realist and must state that your article neglected to mention that there are 6 games which are very loseable for the Giants. I shutter at the though but the performance of the team these past weeks gives me pause to think that possibly the only geame we win down the stretch is Washington.

I hope I am wrong, but I have been around for many moons and remember the horrible stretches of bad football through the years.

]]> By: andrew ilnicki http://www.giantsgab.com/2009/11/09/talking-points-giants-chargers/comment-page-1/#comment-10433 andrew ilnicki Mon, 09 Nov 2009 14:47:34 +0000 http://www.giantsgab.com/?p=3068#comment-10433 BTW --- Who is saying Eli didn't play great? He played his game!!! That was 2007-2008 superbowl/playoff material for Eli. Let me quote Herm Edwards from yesterday's pregame: "A goal without a plan is a wish" This sums up all the Eli haters out there -- he is not his brother, he is not Drew Brees, he is not Joe Montana. But what he is is a great game manager a la Joe Namath. He is not stats man, he's an efficient team leader that gets the job done when the plan is followed... and that plan is short passes, high percentage plays, minimizing turnovers, and running the football. The Giants offensive players delivered a game good enough to win yesterday, period. The Defense is responsible for yet another loss... particularly Corey Webster who was clearly gassed at the end of the game. They made him pay for it. Aaron Ross better be good to go in two weeks and help out his team. BTW — Who is saying Eli didn’t play great?

He played his game!!! That was 2007-2008 superbowl/playoff material for Eli.

Let me quote Herm Edwards from yesterday’s pregame:
“A goal without a plan is a wish”

This sums up all the Eli haters out there — he is not his brother, he is not Drew Brees, he is not Joe Montana. But what he is is a great game manager a la Joe Namath.

He is not stats man, he’s an efficient team leader that gets the job done when the plan is followed… and that plan is short passes, high percentage plays, minimizing turnovers, and running the football.

The Giants offensive players delivered a game good enough to win yesterday, period. The Defense is responsible for yet another loss… particularly Corey Webster who was clearly gassed at the end of the game. They made him pay for it.

Aaron Ross better be good to go in two weeks and help out his team.

]]> By: CMH http://www.giantsgab.com/2009/11/09/talking-points-giants-chargers/comment-page-1/#comment-10432 CMH Mon, 09 Nov 2009 14:43:57 +0000 http://www.giantsgab.com/?p=3068#comment-10432 Seubert looks overmatched. Constantly getting overpowered. Can we move Diehl back inside and put Beatty at Left Tackle? Seubert looks overmatched. Constantly getting overpowered.

Can we move Diehl back inside and put Beatty at Left Tackle?

]]> By: andrew ilnicki http://www.giantsgab.com/2009/11/09/talking-points-giants-chargers/comment-page-1/#comment-10431 andrew ilnicki Mon, 09 Nov 2009 14:37:11 +0000 http://www.giantsgab.com/?p=3068#comment-10431 this was a really great rundown jesse. i comforted myself with that playoff gnosis as soon as i ripped off my jersey.... but the ride still sucks right now. from the second to last drive to the last drive, the Giants defense looked like it went from 100mph to up on a rack -- a pitiful effort all around from the D when the game was on the line. Who would have thought that two 4th down field goal attempts from inside the redzone would have decided such a victory anyway? oh thats right -- WE DID!!!!!!!! god DAMN CONSERVATIVE PLAYCALLING ON FOURTH AND INCHES!!!!! you want to rely on your defense? then go for the 4th and inches next time. CRIPES! this was a really great rundown jesse. i comforted myself with that playoff gnosis as soon as i ripped off my jersey…. but the ride still sucks right now.

from the second to last drive to the last drive, the Giants defense looked like it went from 100mph to up on a rack — a pitiful effort all around from the D when the game was on the line.

Who would have thought that two 4th down field goal attempts from inside the redzone would have decided such a victory anyway?

oh thats right — WE DID!!!!!!!!

god DAMN CONSERVATIVE PLAYCALLING ON FOURTH AND INCHES!!!!!

you want to rely on your defense? then go for the 4th and inches next time. CRIPES!

]]> By: buljos http://www.giantsgab.com/2009/11/09/talking-points-giants-chargers/comment-page-1/#comment-10429 buljos Mon, 09 Nov 2009 14:19:54 +0000 http://www.giantsgab.com/?p=3068#comment-10429 They played much, much better last night than they played against the Saints and Eagles. They certainly turned the corner if they can hold and build upon what they did last night. With Boley and Canty back, Sintim getting experience, and Ross due back after the bye, this team should be able to go 4-3 or even 5-2 down the stretch. As each week goes by it becomes more apparent how much we miss Ross and Phillips. Coughlin and Reese went into this season light at Safety, and they knew they were taking a chance... and they rolled craps. I also submit that Papa's correct in his thought that the success of the young WRs is both a blessing and curse - Eli and Gilbride are passing to set up the run because Smith, Manningham, and Nicks have proven to be more than capable. They've migrated away from the running game as their primary weapon that this O-line was built to exploit. The Charger defense was on the field for a long time... but not enough reliance on the running game. Gilbride is still holding onto his old roots with those slinging offenses he coached way back when... will Gilbride ever understand and accept Giants football? They played much, much better last night than they played against the Saints and Eagles. They certainly turned the corner if they can hold and build upon what they did last night. With Boley and Canty back, Sintim getting experience, and Ross due back after the bye, this team should be able to go 4-3 or even 5-2 down the stretch. As each week goes by it becomes more apparent how much we miss Ross and Phillips. Coughlin and Reese went into this season light at Safety, and they knew they were taking a chance… and they rolled craps. I also submit that Papa’s correct in his thought that the success of the young WRs is both a blessing and curse – Eli and Gilbride are passing to set up the run because Smith, Manningham, and Nicks have proven to be more than capable. They’ve migrated away from the running game as their primary weapon that this O-line was built to exploit. The Charger defense was on the field for a long time… but not enough reliance on the running game. Gilbride is still holding onto his old roots with those slinging offenses he coached way back when… will Gilbride ever understand and accept Giants football?

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