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Prospect Profiles-DE Carlos Dunlap

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Carlos Dunlap

Measurables:

6’6” 290 pounds. Born February 20, 1989. Junior.

Stats:

Career: 77 tackles, 1 FF, 19 sacks, 4 blocked kicks.

2009: 34 tackles (25 solo) 9 sacks in 13 games.

Big Games:  @ kentucky 2 tackles, 1 sack, 1 pass defensed

@ mississippi state 5 tackles. 3 sacks.

vs Vanderbilt 4 tackles, 1 sack.

vs Florida State 3 tackles, 1 sack.

Cinncinnati All State Sugar Bowl. 2 tackles, 2 sacks.

Carlos Dunlap was fairly productive in college, however he was not as productive as his talent suggests, but Florida plays a lot of lesser teams and it is very possible that Carlos Dunalp sat out a lot during second half blow out games (ie games I would not watch) or did not bring his A game in those competitions. Basically he took off games when he knew the Gators would dominate an opponet.

Scouting Reports

ESPN Scouts Inc (1 Exceptional, 3 average, 5 marginal)

Production 3 2007: (13/0) 7 tackles, 2 TFL, 1 sack, 1 FF, 1 INT. 2008: (14/2) 39 tackles, 13.5 TFL, 9.5 sacks, 1 FF, 1 FR, 3 INTs; Named the Defensive MVP of the BCS National Championship Game.
Height-Weight-Speed 2 Prototypical height and bulk and good top-end speed for his size.
Durability 2 2009: Undergoes abdominal surgery and misses spring workouts.
Intangibles 2 Has blocked four kicks during his career at UF. Work ethic and effort in practice have improved over the past three years but he still needs to mature and become a more consistent player. Recent DUI arrest (12/1/09) adds to character and maturity concerns.
Defensive End specific Traits
Pass Rush Skills 2 Excellent upper-body strength and flashes the ability to toss interior offensive linemen to the side. Flashes the ability to collapse the pocket coming off the edge. Shows an effective spin move and has the potential to develop an arsenal of pass rush moves but doesn’t do a good enough of job of setting tackles up to the outside before redirecting inside, and hands are more polished than footwork at this point. Has very long arms, times jumps fairly well and gets hands up when isn’t going to get to the quarterback. Uses hands to fight off cut blocks. Adequate closing speed coming off the edge and above-average closing speed for an interior defensive lineman.
Athleticism/Versatility 1 Moves very well for his size and even returned kicks for high school team. Can recover when caught collapsing too far inside or too far upfield. Shows good lateral mobility when scraping down the line of scrimmage. Can line up anywhere on the defensive line in a four-man front and could develop into an effective end in a base three-man front if moved there. Hips are a bit stiff but appears athletic enough to hold own in coverage on zone blitzes.
Versus the Run 2 Quick enough to disrupt plays in the backfield. Lacks elite range but takes adequate pursuit angles and an effective wrap-up tackler that can make plays in space. Extends arms and sets the edge when lined up at end but doesn’t always shed blocks in time to make a play and hands could be more violent at times. Plays a little too high, doesn’t consistently drive offensive tackles back and unless technique improves he is going to have a difficult time anchoring against the run when he moves inside.
Instincts/Competitiveness 2 Keeps head up and locates the ball quickly. Rarely gets caught watching the play but effort in pursuit is a bit inconsistent and could play with more of an edge. Can be a step late recognizing screens in third-and-long situations. Can get drawn offside at times (see: 2009 Vanderbilt game).

Draft Board Insider

Scouting Report: It’s not every year an athlete like Dunlap comes along.  He’s got a speed/size combination that reminds many of Mario Williams. The comparison is absolutely valid.  Dunlap is huge with a massive wingspan, and is much faster than a 290lb should be.  Much of the criticism around Dunlap centers around his lack of technique and questionable effort.  If I recall, Mario Williams had many of the same criticisms.  What cannot be denied is Dunlap is a matchup nightmare for offensive tackles. and when he’s on, he’s as disruptive a player as you will see.

Draft Status:  The two things you have to account for with Dunlap are triangle numbers which will be impressive, and his potential which seems to be limitless.  Then you balance that with his football acumen which seems to be low and his effort with hasn’t been consistent.  I think some team will jump all over the first two and hope they can fix the second two.  Like him or not, he’s almost certainly a first round pick, especially with a big offseason.

Final AnalysisI am not as critical of Dunlap as many.  Haven’t been all year.  And in the past few weeks my patience as paid off. Dunlap over the past month as really improved, showing more variety in his pass rush moves, more strength in the run game, better tackling and just more awareness of the game, which allows him to use that athleticism to his advantage.  If he can continue to build on the momentum he’s had the past few weeks, he’ll improve his draft stock greatly.  He obviously has to improve in some of the technical areas of his game, but I am seeing improvement every week.

Reminds me of: Mario Williams, DE Houston Texans-Dunlap has every bit of the size and speed and athletic ability Williams had coming out of college.  Williams proved to be a very hard worker in the NFL and has grown his ability into those measurables.  Dunlap will need to do the same.

Walterfootball.com

Strengths:

  • Very big frame and nice bulk
  • Very good strength
  • Long arms
  • Good agility
  • Solid closing speed
  • Takes good angles to the ball
  • Plays with great pad level
  • Instinctive – good block recognition
  • Knack for batting down passes
  • Flashes great disengagement to make tackles
  • Versatile – lines up DT and DE on both sides of ball
    Weaknesses:
  • Lacks a first step; doesn’t fire out of stance
  • Not the elite athlete he is hyped up as
  • Extremely inconsistent
  • Lacks serious power at point of attack
  • Very soft and not physical
  • Dominated by inferior talent
  • Not mentally tough
  • Not as productive as stats would lead you to believe
  • No pass-rush move outside of spin
  • Lacks counter moves
  • Doesn’t seem to love the game
  • Poor intangibles
  • Lethargic body language on the field
  • Summary: At times I will see Dunlap make a nice hustle play, but these moments are few and far between. He’ll make a tackle for a loss when he wasn’t even blocked, but this doesn’t show up statistically. Dunlap is an extremely overrated prospect with very poor intangibles. He could get drafted anywhere from the top 10 (Jamaal Anderson/Derrick Harvey) to the second round (Calais Campbell).Player Comparison: Jamaal Anderson. Anderson has had a mediocre work ethic and played very sloppy, lazy football for Atlanta. I anticipate the same for Dunlap in the NFL.
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    21/10: A freakish athlete at 6-7 290 with 4.7 timed speed, we’ll see if he lives up to that at the combine, but he doesn’t seem to try on the field on every play. He makes a lot of big plays, but not nearly enough of the little things. Its like he only wants to fill his stat sheet and not win. He was also suspended late in the season after a DUI. He came back for the Sugar Bowl and had a nice game with 2 sacks, to give him 9 on the season, but 5 of those game in 2 games. He has huge upside, but major character red flags. If he’s this lazy now, imagine how lazy he’ll get if he signs a major NFL contract. Slipping to the 2nd round could be good for him as he’d have to work to get a major NFL contract, but unfortunately, his upside is so huge that I doubt he actually does slip to the 2nd round. He could even go as high as 8 to the Raiders.

    6/18/09: Defensive ends are (sic not) normally the most athletic players on the football field. Carlos Dunlap is one of the most athletic defensive end we’ve seen come out of college in a long while. He’s tall, 6-7, long, 88 inch wingspan, big 290 pounds and pretty much all muscle, and, while he does not have blinding speed, he still is still fast. He should run a 40 in the high 4.6s, maybe low 4.7s, but when you consider the rest of his athleticism, that won’t matter much. He has a tremendous motor and loves the game of football. He doesn’t take plays off which is rare for a defensive end coming out of college. He truly believes that every time the other team snaps the ball, he can bring down the opposing quarterback, or at least create major pressure on him. He can be caught out of position on running plays, because he loves to rush the quarterback so much, so his 290 pounds is not fully maximized as a run blocker. However, has a pass rusher his size definitely helps. There aren’t too many ends that are the size of size tackles and still have the quickness and speed to blow by them and go around them too. His pass rushing form needs some work, but that can be said of any defensive end coming out of college. He won’t be a huge impact during his first year in the league, but by his 3rd year, I would be surprised if he was not a double digit sacks guy. He might not go as high as he should in the draft because he can’t play the 3-4. He doesn’t defend the pass well enough to play 3-4 OLB, but his ability to get to the quarterback, as well as his athleticism, would not be maximized as a 3-4 defensive end, as that position specializes in stopping the run. However, if I were a 4-3 team who didn’t have a huge pressing issue to fill, like the Lions and their lack of a left tackle or the Rams and their lack of a quarterback, I wouldn’t hesitate to take Dunlap. His measurables, potential, and all around football skill should mirror that of Mario Williams, the 2006 #1 pick of the Texans. He actually has one athletic advantage over the supremely athletic Williams, his longer arms. He is able to use his 7’6” wingspan to get around offensive lineman, as Julius Peppers does. His arms can also help in run stopping, as they can be used to easily bear hug a ball carrier, so he can’t break the tackle. He needs some work with the fundamentals, but he’s going to the NFL, and I highly doubt that there are any NFL defensive coordinators and defensive line coaches that don’t know how to teach the fundamentals. He has shown he’s a good learner throughout his football career. Unless he gets hurt or has an awful year, he’s going to be a top 10 pick.

    NFL Comparison: Jamaal Anderson

    Big Board Rankings

    Drafttek.com 12th

    Mel Kiper Jr. 15th

    Espn’s Scout Inc (todd Mcshay) 14th

    Draft Board Insider 28th

    CBS Draft Scout 13th

    Bartolis Summary and Final Verdict

    Carlos Dunalp is either Mario Williams or William Joseph (as it relates to New York Giants bust), or for Defensive ends think of Jacksonville’s Derrick Harvey or Atlanta’s Jamaal Anderson. There is probably no in between. He will either be a dominating player in the N.F.L. or a complete bust.

    Bartolis Final Verdict

    I could absolutely see the New York Giants selecting Carlos Dunalp 15th overall if he is available.

    His upside is ulimited. He’s a fantastic athlete, he was  pretty productive against good teams, but didn’t show up vs a lot of bad teams.

    Look at the games where he had 1 tackle this past season:  vs FIU (Gators won 62-3), @ South Carolina (24-14, by the way 2 passes defensed this game),  vs Georgia (47-17), Charleston Southern (62-3).

    Games with 2 tackles Troy (56-6), Kentucky (41-7), Cincinnati (51-24; he had two sacks this game by the way).

    My point is: did Carlos Dunlap take plays off? Yes, absolutely. He probably took whole games off, especially against teams that were god-awful. But he was pretty productive in big games.

    He’s also from an established program, and plays a premium position.

    The Giants were in the bottom half of the league in sacks last year, and even though I think that they will focus on other positions we should not be shocked if the Giants draft Carlos Dunalp 15th overall (as of January 29th, Mel Kiper Jr. believes they will).

    And not only should you not be shocked, you should also not be dissapointed.

    What you should do is cross your fingers, pray to your diety and hope that the Giants just landed the best prospect in the 2010 N.F.L. draft.

    You hope that the New York Giants landed Mario Williams or Julius Peppers and not a complete bust.

    I think THE most important thing for Dunlap will be how he interviews.  And that is not something us draft nuts will have any access too.

    According to wikipedia…Mario Williams had a 3.68 G.P.A in College, and was in the library studying on the weekends a lot.  He showed a lot of great responsible behavior.

    Julius Peppers had a great work ethic as evidence by his playing of two different sports.

    Carlos Dunalp, has not shown those same VISIBLE intangibles, which worries you, but if the Giants talk to him and he WoW’s them and they got a good report from the College Coaches than he should be draftable at 15.

    If the interview process goes poorly. He’s someone else’s problem.

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    14 Responses to “Prospect Profiles-DE Carlos Dunlap”

    1. Steve B says:

      Not crazy about Dunlap, a lot of people question the role that Kiwi has, and then we are going to bring in another high draft DE? I think if we were to go DL in the first round, it would be DT-(someone like Price).

      My top 3 prospects for the Giants pick at 15 are:

      McClain (MLB)(still question 4-3 MIKE, but he is best ILB)

      Thomas (FS)

      Price (DT)

      Maybe OT if a stud falls (but doubt that will happen)

      And there is still a lot of time until the draft, so who knows what is going to happen: CBA, Free Agents, Trades, combine, etc…

    2. Jeremy says:

      I’m not at all thrilled with dunlap either but if we were to draft him couldn’t tuck be an every down DT. Then we still have options. But I still would rather draft a player to fix the gaping holes in the middle of our D.

      • Jason C. says:

        I love the idea of Tuck at DT, however, that would only work with a HUGE body alongside him to take up blockers inside, so unless Vince Wilfork is coming our way, it would be hard to swing. Also he’d have to put on 20 pounds easy. However I think the Giants will move Sintim to DE and focus on shoring up the LB corps. If they do draft Dunlap expect a LOT of trades, I’m still pulling for Berry however, maybe we’ll see one of these profiles for him, love these profiles btw, keep up the good work.

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