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Prospect Profiles-DT/NT Linval Joseph (East Carolina)

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This is a player I saw being talked about a lot over at Ralph Vacchiano’s blog so let’s take a look into what some of the Giants fans there are seeing.

Here are some mock draft scenarios I”ve laid out too take a look if you have the time and let me know what you think.

Measurables

6’4 328 pounds. 34.5 inch arms, 10 inch hands, 5.09 40, 39 reps on the bench press (Second most).

Born October 10th, 1988.

Joseph displayed mcuh better than anticipated athletic ability a 5.09 40 for a man his size is something to behold, he also showed off the guns with 39 reps

He was even more impressive at his proday, according to Gil Brandt of nfl.com

ran the 40-yard dash in 4.93 seconds with the wind, 5.16 seconds against the wind, had a 31 1/2-inch vertical jump, an 8-foot, 6-inch broad jump, a 4.52-second short shuttle, a 7.62-second three-cone drill and stood on his bench press number from the NFL Scouting Combine. He was very good in drills.

Stats

Career: 136 tackles, 1 FF, 6 sacks.

2009: 59 tackles, 3 sacks.

2009 was clearly his best year statistically. He had his most tackles, most solo tackles, and most sacks in2009.

Scouting Reports

NFL.com/combine

Joseph is a big body who could line up at nose tackle in a 3-4 front or interior defender in a 4-3 scheme. He is somewhat one dimensional as a run defender. He flashes ability to anchor well when he keeps his pads down but can be very inconsistent in this area. He has strong arms and hands to control blockers but can be slow to shed to the pile. He has decent quickness between the tackles but lacks range outside the box. He flashes power to collapse the pocket as a bull rusher but needs to expand his pass-rush package to become more effective in this area. Joseph has enough size and strength to push for a starting role along the defensive line, but weight and durability concerns likely will affect his draft status

Joseph has the size to play as a nose tackle in a 3-4 or defensive tackle in an even front. Possesses very good natural strength and power to control the middle against the run. Exhibits really active hands necessary to keep blockers off his body.
There are some weight concerns with Joseph. He also has dealt with a back injury, so durability is another flag. Must become more consistent with his pad level to improve his production level. Overall technique needs some polish, especially while rushing the passer.

CBS NFL Draft Scout

Joseph’s name was not expected to be on the league’s final list of 53 underclassmen declaring for the draft, but NFL teams are likely to be happy it was. The former Florida state weightlifting champion and all-state football star decided to leave the Pirates, at least partially due to head coach Skip Holtz leaving ECU for Tampa to take over at South Florida.The first-team All-Conference USA performer (60 tackles, 22 solo, 13 for loss, three sacks) combines strength and an ability to pressure the quarterback very rarely found in someone his size. He was an immediate contributor for ECU, making 40 tackles, 8.5 for loss, with four starts in 13 games as a freshman. Joseph then earned honorable mention all-conference honors with 43 tackles, eight for loss, and 2.5 sacks.

Joseph’s potential is intriguing, but there are questions about his functional strength and stamina, which could limit his value to some teams. Others might end up drafting him higher than his ability warrants because of a pressing need at the position.

Analysis
Pass rush: Looks like a nose tackle but plays like a three-technique, penetrating and getting consistent pressure when fresh. Good closing speed for his size, swallows up quarterbacks that lack great elusiveness. Straight-ahead runner, however with limited lateral quickness, will not break down to change direction in the backfield.Run defense: Adequate anchoring against double-team blocking due to thick legs and a wide upper body and will move to the ballcarrier after he’s through the line. Can be moved and doesn’t rip off blocks to stop the play before it starts. Willing to chase down the line and downfield between the tackles if he sees the ball in his area. Susceptible to the cut block. Not strong enough to arm tackle backs in the hole.

Explosion: Surprising quickness off of the snap for his size, gets into his gap in a hurry when fresh. Does not deliver much pop to his opponent with his hands on initial contact, however, relying on athleticism to get the job done.

Strength: Does not play as strong as you would think because he plays high and does not consistently use his hands to disengage. Does not reset his hands, get leverage by getting his hands under pads, or attempt to churn his legs after contact to push his man into the backfield.

Tackling: Length and wide body allows him to engulf players in his path. Gives effort to chase, can be effective when well rested. Gets a lot of assisted tackles because of his hustle. Does not sink his hips when approaching the ball, however, and is easily eluded by quicker players in space.

Intangibles: Part of a rotation inside, possibly due to stamina issues. Looks to be winded when playing two consecutive series. Dropped 70 pounds after his freshman season (came to EUC at more than 370 pounds) due to a back injury, regained 20 before 2008 season.

Big Board Rankings

Walterfootball.com 11th ranked 4-3 DT, #4 3-4 Nose Tackle

NFL Draft Bible 175th

NFL Soup.com 144

Rookiedraft.com 5th round projection

Where the Mocks think he’ll be drafted.

Drafttek.com Round 4 pick # 107 Buffalo Bills


Bartolis Summary and Final Verdict

Here is something I’ll quote from National Football Post.com

He possesses some natural athleticism and quickness to his game to sidestep cut blocks and eventually disengage but isn’t as strong on his bull-rush as you’d think.

He made a lot of plays vs. Conference USA competition this year but wasn’t nearly as effective vs. the better conferences on the schedule. He needed another year but has some upside. Grade: 6.0

To me that’s a major Red Flag. I’m not really for players who play well vs inferior competition and can’t step it up vs better competition.

Linval Joseph is one of those players that you’re always worried about, to me. Players who explode at the combine, but their impact on the field wasn’t nearly as great.

There are players who do very well at the combine who are also devalued into “workout warriors” I think Bruce Campbell is one of those players. I am personally a fan of Bruce Campbell (not a lot of people are), but Linval Joseph, without seeing a ton of games scares me.

And while he might have good potential, he might also be a better fit in a 3-4 and I dont’ want to touch him before round 4, which is fine value, but there is talk about him going third or I saw some suggestions of even second round (after the combine and his Pro Day) and at that point, I don’t want a part of that.

I’d rather wait a couple of rounds and take a chance on a guy like Sean Lissmore, who I profiled and someone who the Giants brought in for a visit.

Previous Profiles

CB Chris Cook

CB Trevard Lindley

RB Anthony Dixon

DT Sean Lissmore

ILB Jamar Chaney

ILB Vincent Rey

DT Tyson Alualu

S Darrell Stuckey

OT Vladimir Ducasse

S Myron Rolle

LB Pat Angerer

Morgan Burnett

DT Cam Thomas

LB Navorro Bowman

Athlete Dexter McCluster

CB Joe Haden

S Nate Allen

Jason Pierre Paul

DT Geno Atkins

DT Lamarr Houston

RB Jahvid Best

OT Trent Williams

Derrick Morgan

OL Mike Iupati

S Chad Jones

OLB/DE Sergio Kindle

Sean Weatherspoon

ILB Sean Lee

S Eric Berry

OT Bruce Campbell

ILB Daryl Washington

DT/NT Dan Williams (Updated with K.C. Joyner’s Draft Lab 2/7)

CB Kyle Wilson

DT Jared Odrick

DE Carlos Dunlap

ILB Micah Johnson

DT Arthur Jones

OT Bryan Baluga

OT Anthony Davis (UPDATED 2/5/10)

DT Brian Price

ILB Brandon Spikes

S Earl Thomas

ILB Rolando McClain

RB C.J. Spiller

S Taylor Mays


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5 Responses to “Prospect Profiles-DT/NT Linval Joseph (East Carolina)”

  1. Mike P. says:

    Hey Giants Fans, this prospect looks great especially since we need some help on don D-Line esp on the interior.

    I stumbled across this New York Giants group on some website called LockerBlogger.com. I’ve never heard of it but they have a lot of good input from fans and experts. I guess it’s a sports-centered kind of thing.

    But anyway, here’s a link to the group: http://www.lockerblogger.com/groups/new-york-giants-fans

  2. Michael S says:

    hey guys, i just thought of something quite crazy and actually possible….
    we know that the redskins are switching to a 3-4 right?
    why dont we try to trade for big boy albert haynesworth??????
    he says he doesnt want to play nose tackle on that team…
    what do you think it would take? i say a 2nd 4th and a conditional pick next year.
    would it be worth… tuck haynesworth kiwanuka osi sintim comin at your qb. i think so.

  3. jeremy says:

    I have a problem with your better competition theory. Usually better competition has better coaches who scheme against the best players on a team.

    But I like playing devils advocate.
    just a thought…

  4. CMH says:

    Kid seems like more of a nose tackle. Hopefully, with so many teams looking for the huge earth movers to play the nose in a 3-4, some of the better “pure” 4-3 DTs will fall to us. Would love to see us get Price in the 2nd or Houston in the 3rd.

    When do we cut Rocky?

  5. Pete says:

    I saw Linval play for 3 years but his is still young. He played as a true freshman at ECU. He is a beast but what you are forgetting is that he played with 2 other DLineman at ECU who will get drafted. CJ Wilson and Jay Ross. Joseph is a worker, he just needs to learn some better technique because his strength is off the charts. Not to mention his back bothered him after his freshman year so he went and lost 70 pounds so he has the discipline.
    Noone ran up the middle against him and Jay Ross so he really didnt get the chances to make as many tackles as he could. Most CUSA teams had to pass all day long because they couldnt run on the front 4.
    He will be a solid player in the NFL.

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