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Tight End Problems:No More?

In the last post on giantsgab.com my man Fuchs said something that caught my attention. He wrote, “Witten could cause huge match-up problems for the Giants, who seem to have a never ending problem with good tight ends”

And I thought to myself, is that still the case? Are the Giants still terrible against tight ends, because I couldn’t remember a tight end dominating any of the games that the Giants have played this year, and the Giants have played some very good tight ends. Owen Daniels, Greg Olson, Dallas Clark, and Brandon Pettigrew are all some of the more talented tight ends in the league.

So I went back to do the research on behalf of the fans. Here’s the data.

In week one the NY Giants played against the Panthers who do NOT have a great tight end. They have a young player named Dante Rosario who can have some big games, but he’s not a consistently good player.

On the season Rosario has 10 receptions for 92 yards and a touchdown.  (But that’s SECOND on the team. Wow, they suck).

Against the Giants he had 2 catches for 14 yards. Which is bad.

In Week two the Giants played the Colts with the elite Tight End Dallas Clark

Clark had 5 catches for 83 yards and a touchdown, But Dallas Clark makes everyone look bad and this performance by the Giants was disgraceful and almost worth discounting, but I can’t completely.

In week3 the Giants played the Titans and Bo Scaife who had 2 catches for 23 yards and no touchdowns, which is nothing special, but Bo Scaife is nothing special.

In week 4 the Giants played Greg Olson of the Bears, who is a dangerous tight end. He had 5 catches for 39 yards and no touchdowns.

In week five the Giants played against Owen Daniels who is a top notch tight end in this league, even though he hasn’t been great this year. He had 3 catches for 45 yards and no touchdowns.

Lastly the Giants played the Detroit Lions with Brandon Pettigrew. Even though Pettigrew doesn’t have the reputation of the other top tight ends in the league, he does have the talent. The former first round pick of the Lions has 33 catches for 336 yards receiving this season, which is second in the league for tight ends behind only Dallas Clark (in catches), which means barring a huge performance from players behind Pettigrew he’ll be leading the reception category for tight ends. Pettigrew had 7 catches for 61 yards and no touchdowns.

What is the tally?

On the season to tight ends the NY Giants have given up 24 catches to Tight Ends on the season for 265 yards or 4 catches a game for 44.17 yards a game.

The Giants have also only given up one touchdown to tight ends this season, which frankly is surprising. Generally speaking, the Giants have been pretty awful against tight ends in recent memory, but despite facing some pretty good tight ends this year (Rosario is the team’s second leading receiver on the team, sadly) they have played them well.

I think the question is what is making the biggest difference?

Is is the presence of three capable safeties (Grant, Rolle, Phillips)

Is it the pass rush?

Is it Perry Fewell’s system?

Is it all a mirage?

Is it a healthy Boely and a competent Jonathan Goff?

What do you guys think? And do you think that this relative success can continue for the rest of the year despite the good tight ends they still have to play (Celek, Witten, and Cooley each twice)?


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3 Responses to “Tight End Problems:No More?”

  1. BlueManFla says:

    A lot depends on the league average of catches by tight ends. how does it compare against the rest of the league.

    Also, how many times have the opposing team actaully called a play designed to go to the tight ends? How well have the Giants defensed it compared to the rest of the league.

    Not knocking the Giants coverage, just wondering how they stack up.

  2. Fumblesnout says:

    The giants aren’t good against TEs still. Owen Daniels was limited in snaps vs the giants and still had a solid game, Brandon Pettigrew was really good (TE’s normally don’t have a lot of yards as they are blocking and are checkdowns). The Bears passing offense couldnt do anything, and Im sure Greg Olsen was at the top of his team in that game for rec/yards. And the panthers dont really count as an offense so Rosario doesnt count.
    I dont see how anything that was posted really shows that the giants have done anything. You can say the pass rush helped, but the pass rush just stops the entire offense, not just the TE

    • Greg Olson is at the top of the team in receptions and yards in every game he plays because he is their best receiving threat.

      I appreciate your opinion.

      I think the defense has improved against Tight Ends because they have more viable options to support the passing game vs Tight ends.

      Michael Boely is healthier, Kenny Phillips is healthy, Antrel Rolle is now on the team, and Jonathan Goff has played well in pass coverage this season.

      It could be possible that the Giants still aren’t good vs tight ends, which is why I asked for comments at the end of the post

      Regardless of the reasons for it, you don’t think it’s impressive that the Giants have only allowed opposing tight ends 1 touchdown reception?

      And you don’t think there is any improvement vs tight ends over the past three seasons?

      I think the Giants have a tough test moving forward with 6 divisional games vs good tight ends so we’ll see what happens, but I feel more confident about shutting down a tight end now then I have at most points over the last three seasons.

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