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Was Victor Cruz “non-fumble” the right call?

The Victor Cruz “non-fumble” will be one of the most debated and talked about officiating calls from Week 4.

FOX analyst, former NFL head of officiating Mike Pereira believes the play should have been ruled a fumble which was recovered by the Cardinals.

According to Mike Garafolo of the Newark Star-Ledger, Carl Johnson, the NFL’s vice president of officiating, agreed with the call made on the field when Cruz was ruled to have declared himself down, according to someone informed of Johnson’s review of the play. The person requested anonymity because the league didn’t release any information on Johnson’s review of the play.

The play could not be challenged because it’s a judgment call. The Giants scored the game-winning touchdown (Manning to Nicks) on the next play.

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12 Responses to “Was Victor Cruz “non-fumble” the right call?”

  1. NYG_Brazil says:

    I don’t see a reason for debating about it anymore. When it happened, I didn’t know the rule, so I thought it was a fumble. After reading experts explaining the rules, reading them and rewatching it, seems evident to me it was a correct call. The only one who seems to disagree is the *former* officiating boss. Officials can be proud of themselves, they got it right.

  2. bd98711 says:

    I dont see why this is any different than Eli’s fumble against the Eagles last year. He purposely went to the ground and lost the ball. Same type of play and same impact on the game. Different calls. Is this a new rule for this year?

    • Ed says:

      the ball was loose when Eli went down. Big Difference

      • Jason C. says:

        Actually Eli’s knee was down before the ball came out, the difference here is the ref *EXPECTS* a QB to slide when giving himself up, a non-QB rarely, if ever, slides to give himself up. Therefore, the ref never ruled him as giving himself up (though IMO he should’ve in that situation as well).

        • BoomKentucky says:

          Do you have to maintain possession until you reach the ground complete? Once Eli’s shoulders hit the ground he lost control of the ball.

          Cruz stopped on the ground with possession. He looked around and then dropped the ball while getting up.

  3. Ed says:

    Too many people hunged up on a fumble/non-fumble that Arizona DID NOT CAUSE. It wasn’t like someone hit him and he lost the ball and we can say it was a good play by Arizona by knocking the ball out. Victor dropped the ball on purpose and didn’t try to advance. If he got hit and lost the ball then I can see the complaints. other then that its about a composed Eli determine to score twice in the fourth quarter being down by two scores with a little over 5 mins remaining. Scored twice and gave Arizona more then enough time to score a winning TD. Its about Eli doing what Romo and Vick (supposedly better QBs) didn’t do in the 4th quarter with momentum. Eli did it on the road with Arizona holding all the momentum scoring a TD giving them a 2 score lead with 5 mins left.

  4. Jason C. says:

    It’s easy to understand where the people who are crying fumble are coming from. As Dungy as well as others have said, we’re accustomed to the refs only giving a player the benefit of giving themselves up on a feet first slide. What’s a joke is guys like Dungy and others saying it should be ruled a fumble because he was trying to get up and advance the ball (only a moron would think that after watching the play).
    He was ruled as giving himself up, he clearly tried to get up to get into position for the next play (as they were running a no huddle hurry up offense), and the Cardinals flocked after the ball making it look like it was a fumble. All that said, the right call was made, just like the ref can call a QB sacked, even if he gets a pass off, if he’s been contained long enough, or call dead ball if a guy is held up for a certain amount of time without advancing, there are other ways to end plays other than being down on your knees while being touched by an opposing player.

  5. Jason C. says:

    Also Mike Pereira is a jerkoff who’s just upset that he looks like Michael Douglas on Falling Down.

  6. BlueManFla says:

    I am glad we got the call. Helped us win. However, I think it should have been ruled a fumble. Cruz didn’t slide or go down with the purpose of “giving himself up”. He stumbled. The fact that he admitted the reason he released the ball was that he thought he was touched, not because he was giving himself up. Had the rfs known his thinking I am sure it would have been ruled a fumble.

    But as I said, I am glad we got the call. That is after I changed my underwear.

  7. Joe says:

    Victor cruz clearly had no intention of advancing the ball once he was on the ground. Therfore it is the correct call.

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